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Relief to Indian-American community as passport rules are changed

George Joseph, 02-Jun-2010 09:40:06 AM
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Relief to Indian-American community as passport rules are changed
Relief to Indian-American community as passport rules are changed

New York: Taking into consideration the protests from Indian community in the US, the Indian government has changed the new citizenship rules, much to the relief of many. As per the changes, persons who became citizens of the US till May 31, 2010, are not required to pay $175 to renounce their Indian citizenship and to get a surrender certificate.

But they will have to return the passports and get a surrender certificate. A miscellaneous fee of $ 20 will be charged from them. No penalty will be charged for the delay in renouncing the citizenship. There is no time frame stipulated for this, though it is better to do it as soon as possible, Prabhu Dayal, India's consul General in New York said announcing the new rules.  Those who currently hold an Overseas Citizen of India card or a Person of Indian Origin card are not required to undertake these procedures.

But those who take up US citizenship from June 1, 2010, are required to renounce the Indian citizenship and get a surrender certificate within three months paying $175. This is bad news is that those who already took their surrender certificate paying $175 as these fees will not get a refund.

Some of the Indian passports were cancelled when people took up the US citizenship, but it is not enough and a surrender certificate is necessary, Dayal said. People should bring those passports and the consulate will affix a suitable stamp as evidence of renunciation of the Indian citizenship. 

Dayal said the Indian immigration authorities are not asking for surrender certificates and those who have valid visa or OCI/PIO Cards can freely travel to India and will not be turned back.

Those who lost the old passports are required to give an affidavit and also other evidences such as a copy of the US Naturalization Certificate. US law prohibits copying of it illegally. But it is possible to get a copy of it legally from the US authorities, he noted. "We do not want to flout the local laws," he said.

The US passport is not enough in this case as it does not mention the date when one became a US citizen. The new rules were enacted in 2009 and the accusation that it was imposed suddenly was not correct, Dayal said.

He said the Entry Visa was introduced after the new rule that those who are holding tourist visas cannot return to India within two months of the last visit. Many Indians with foreign citizenship found it very inconvenient. The government introduced the entry visa to overcome this and the holders of it can visit India freely.

When Nirav Mehta, president of the Federation of Indian Associations pointed out that the visa is only allowed for five years, and people have to pay more compared to a ten year visa, Dayal agreed to convey the concerns of the people to the government.

But community leaders, Ramesh Patel, Aniyan George, Mahesh Shah and others said they are not satisfied with the requirement of paying $175 for the surrender certificate for those who take up the citizenship in future.

Mehta and Nimesh Dave, vice president of FIA, said they are withholding the proposed protest against the rules in front of the consulate on June 4. They said though they are not fully satisfied with the changes they are canceling the protest for now and approach the authorities for the redressal of other grievances.

Rediff.com took note of the concerns of the community and written about them extensively in the last three weeks after the rule was enforced. Dayal said he will hold a meeting of the community leaders and the media every month to address the concerns of the community. The government came with the new rules because of the security concerns after the misuse of passports by many, he said. There were instances when valid passports were sold for a price, he noted.

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  Comment Posted by DSouza on 22-Sep-2010 05:10:46
No Relief to Indo-Canadian community yet!!! Why the unfairness and unjustice to Indo-Canadians??? Check CGI, Toronto link: http://www.cgitoronto.ca/Passport/passpSurrender.html
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  Comment Posted by DSouza on 22-Sep-2010 05:04:54
The Indian Consulates in Canada are still levying a penalty of Cdn. $240 for retention of Indian passport for a period in excess of three years from the date of acquiring Canadian citizenship. The Consulate General of Toronto site was last updated on September 20, 2010 still indicating the above penalty amount. Here is the link: http://www.cgitoronto.ca/Passport/passpSurrender.html
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  Comment Posted by Ravi Maleshri on 07-Sep-2010 22:31:11
I have a current Indian passport valid till 2017. I became a Canadian Citizen on Sept.7, 2010. How can I return my Indian passport and what fees will have to be paid ? Will I have to get Surrender Certificate ?
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  Comment Posted by Shaan on 27-Aug-2010 12:40:03
I don't understand why the Indian consulate and government has to always think about how to con money out of citizens first before actually helping anyone, this is all non sense and Indians should be able to hold dual citizenships, every other country allows it and its not like India is some hierarchy, also the fact that they are making people dig up their old passports from 30 yrs ago is ridiculous, India needs to fix their corrupt government first then start doing all this non sense
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        Comment Posted by Prankoster on 02-Sep-2010 15:47:51
      Re: Indian constitution does not allow dual citizenship. Not all countries allow dual citizenship. Also, in certain cases one would be required to give up their other citizenships even if one country allows it. e.g. if you are working on information sensitive projects in the US, the US government will ask you to give up your other citizenships.
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  Comment Posted by One Confused Desi on 23-Aug-2010 23:23:20
This whole "Surrender Cert" one India Government screw up of monumental proportions! I mean the confusion keeps mounting as you hear different things from different people! Firstly I was surprised to read in this website (NOT on the consulate site!!) that PIO / OCI cardholders need not go thru. this process at all! That is not what the consulate site or the forms say! Anyway I had a discovey waiting when I showed up at the Chicago consulate recently, with my old Indian passport (expired 20 yrs ago!)along with the mound of docs. they want. The guy at the front window took my old relic passport and put a smudgy rubber stamp saying "Cancelled" on the first page. When asked about Surrender certificate, he simply told me I dont need it! No other explanations! When went in later for other work and pressed the guy at the window, he irritatedly explained that for a guy like me who has got India Visa on my US passport (also OCI)- they dont need anything else from me becausethey already have a record of me in their system as a foreign citizen! When I asked why this is not made clear on their website he just babbled some non sense about .."everything is written clearly....thats why there is separate $175 fees for that....etc..." I am just flabbergasted (as always) at the ineptness of the ministries and officials who make up stuff like this mess!.....It'll be another 100 yrs.....!
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  Comment Posted by One Confused Desi on 23-Aug-2010 23:08:13
To Marie Carter You can apply for a PIO/OCI based on 1)Indian Birth Cert OR 2) Indian passport of spouse or 1 parent. I had lost my old Indian passport too and I got the PIO based on my wife's India passport.
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  Comment Posted by Marie Carter on 20-Aug-2010 11:52:33
Please Help!!!!!! - I became a US Citizen in 1980's and my INDIAN PASSPORT was taken at that time now I need to apply for my OCI and need to Submit my "Passport No." etc. - how do i get the information sure it must all be on the "Computer" has anyone been able to get the required information for the "Surrender Cert. etc." to apply for "OCI"... Thank you really need your help!
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  Comment Posted by Sammy on 16-Aug-2010 22:27:37
I am answering your question here..since you have OCI you don't have to do anything or surrender your old indian passport.more details about this is allready in this news article.please read carefully.I hope this helps.
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  Comment Posted by JohnBenjamin on 04-Aug-2010 12:03:27
Great and nice blog.
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  Comment Posted by Kurien Yacov on 30-Jun-2010 10:13:04
It is impossible to get an Indian Visa at San Fransico if you lost your Indian Passport. The affidavit was rejected and basically no VISA will be provided. this is now a major problem for Indians who took up foreign citizenship 30 years ago and cannot find the old Indian passport. Anyone know any solutions?
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        Comment Posted by Marie Carter on 20-Aug-2010 11:55:07
      Re: Hi were you able to get any information i also became a Citizen over 30yrs ago and now need to apply for OCI and do not have any Particulars on my Indian Passport would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks a lot
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        Comment Posted by Marie Carter on 20-Aug-2010 11:46:03
      Re: Hi - I have the same problem became a citizen over 30yrs ago turned in my Indian Passport and cannot apply for my OCI were you able to get any information. Thanks a lot Marie
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        Comment Posted by Sankaran Chandramouli on 04-Jul-2010 08:50:00
      Re: I agree. I have the same problem. I do not have the last Indian passport or copies of it. Became a citizen 25 years ago, I agree that they do not accept lost report or affidavit. If you find a solution let us know Mouli
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  Comment Posted by Vijay Kumar on 26-Jun-2010 08:11:16
Gentlemen: I have a US Passport with a 10 year multiple entry visa. I travelled to India recently and during my return to the United States the authorities at the Airport stamped my passport that I could renter after agap of 2 months. This came as surprise to me. This rule makes it inconvenient when one visits India and make trips to Singapore, Malaysia etc., with relatives and return to India and then return to the States. Is there petitions being sent to the Indian Government ? to remove trhis rule ? If I have to change my Tourist Visa to Entry Visa which is valid for 5 years only, will this type of visa allow me to enter multiple times without the 2 months restriction ? Please shed some light on this. Your information is highly appreciated. Thank You, Vijay
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  Comment Posted by Bala N. Aiyer on 12-Jun-2010 10:22:28
1. Even now, as of last week, the consulate is asking for $175 per person, holding US Citizenship for over 20 years, saying that they have not received official instructions fom GOI and the $20 is only a request. 2. Many of us who had Indian passport cancelled, corners cut, for over 20 to 30 years have their old passports, somewhere in boxes in attick and have moved several places since past years. Why can't they waive all rules for those who do not have any active passport renewed in the past 10 years - prior to Jan 1st 2000 -. In this computer age, they can verify who has passport - alsoanyone traveling on Indian passport, but US citizen will not have an active US Visa for the travel or re-entry. This they can question.
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  Comment Posted by Dhiraj soni on 10-Jun-2010 04:16:58
I am usa citizen, and as indian consulate general granted o.c.i. for india and usa that is my multipal and life long visa, I paid $295.00 for that,now indian ambassy asking for surrender my indian passports and they want to stamp apporiate stamp called surrender certificate and i have to pay $ 20.00 for that..?what is this..?what is renunciation certificate..as you verify my indian and american passports at the time of issue o.c.i to me why you did not say me at that time...and now you change new law...please make that clear to understand..thanks lot...
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  Comment Posted by Neelesh Lakhani on 05-Jun-2010 06:22:21
I already paid 175 for 3 person in my family on may 28 2010 and now there is not refund. Outragerous....... Have no words to express.
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  Comment Posted by Jay on 05-Jun-2010 04:02:58
Its not big relief as new scam (called Entry Visa) introduced for Indian born US citizen which costs more than US born/citizen. Also, US born can get 10 years visa and entry visa would be maximum for 5 years.. Now.. that really make sense.. isn't it? What a shame...
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  Comment Posted by DEEPAK on 05-Jun-2010 02:32:27
I AM USA CITIZEN SINSE 1976 AND I HAVE OCI ,BUT MY INDIAN PASSPORT IS LOST ,WHAT IS PROCEDURE .
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  Comment Posted by Paagal99 on 04-Jun-2010 06:24:44
OOh! what an ordeal. Sorry Let us wait and see what happens tomorrow. Some other idea crops up and the Rules change. Earlier, when a visa or PIO card taken, the passports were not canceled, and now it is the responsibility of the holder to run around to get the things done. Are there any fixed government website for the published rules? Any idea how to convert a PIO card to OCI card with the current rules. Paagal99
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  Comment Posted by Krishna Pillalamarri on 03-Jun-2010 23:34:15
The $20 surrender fee proposed is reasonable, and shold made applicable in all situations. The security concerns from the Embassy are understandable. There should be a requirement for people who have taken up US citizenship, to surrender their Indian passports. This should even be made an automatic process, with the US State departmnent advising the Indian Embassy of Naturalizations. However, charging $175 for the process, proclaiming such a rule with retroactive effect, rescinding it only for a narrow time interval, not refunding the difference for the people who have already paid the $175 - all of these are egregious, arbitrary, and unreasonable actions on the part of the Embassy, which does not seem to be acting in a rational way.
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  Comment Posted by Lost in Texas on 03-Jun-2010 01:00:07
My Indian passport was retained at the SF Office in 1980's when I first applied for first visa on US passport. Just paid $175 renunciation fee on May 12th . Its been a month, still visa is on process. I have travelled to India several times after getting the US Passport in 1980 and had several visas. Now there is no refund as visa is still on process as of June 2nd!!
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  Comment Posted by Santhosh Nair on 02-Jun-2010 23:56:28
Anyone who still wants to keep a connection with India will apply for either the OCI card or PIO card. So why don't the authorities make this 'Surrender’ and ‘Denunciation' part of the PIO or OCI application process. That will streamline the process; reduce confusion and saves time and money all around.
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  Comment Posted by Lost in NY on 02-Jun-2010 19:23:15
My old Indian passport was actually retained by the Indian Consulate when I applied for a visa on my US passport. The Embassy wants me to file a police report about the lost passport -- do I name them as the criminals who stole it? PO Indian
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        Comment Posted by Frustrated in Los Angeles on 01-Sep-2010 11:31:00
      Re: I too do not have my old Indian Passport. I believe that the Consulate in San Francisco retained it when I appliend for my first Indian Visa after becoming a citizen over 22 years ago. I have sumbitted an affidavit of Lost Passport and am still dealing with the bureaucracy at the Indian Consulate which has held up my OCI Card application because of it. Their phone is almost never answered and voice mails and emails are never replied to. Do you or anyone else know of a solution to resolving this? Muy US Passport is wioth the US Consulate and there is no way I can get through to them.
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  Comment Posted by Renounced Indian on 02-Jun-2010 10:46:04
So what about those who paid the $175 and got the Surrender Certificate in the last few weeks when the rule was enforced with gusto? They should be refunded $155 forthwith. Otherwise, it is unjust.
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